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	<title>Comments on: The Conversations of Our Times: Part Four</title>
	<link>http://billeasum.com/20080906/the-conversations-of-our-times-part-four/</link>
	<description>The unmotivated are oblivious to the obvious</description>
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		<title>By: Michaela</title>
		<link>http://billeasum.com/20080906/the-conversations-of-our-times-part-four/#comment-974</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read "Reimagining Church" and found it to be very insightful and true to the original biblical pattern.

Also, there are other reviews which take a very different opinion on the book. 
http://www.theooze.com/articles/article.cfm?id=2104
http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/review-reimagining-church/
http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-frank-viola-project-and-why-you-should-take-it-seriously</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read &#8220;Reimagining Church&#8221; and found it to be very insightful and true to the original biblical pattern.</p>
<p>Also, there are other reviews which take a very different opinion on the book.<br />
<a href="http://www.theooze.com/articles/article.cfm?id=2104" rel="nofollow">http://www.theooze.com/articles/article.cfm?id=2104</a><br />
<a href="http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/review-reimagining-church/" rel="nofollow">http://kingdomgrace.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/review-reimagining-church/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-frank-viola-project-and-why-you-should-take-it-seriously" rel="nofollow">http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-frank-viola-project-and-why-you-should-take-it-seriously</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://billeasum.com/20080906/the-conversations-of-our-times-part-four/#comment-973</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sequel to “Pagan Christianity?” is out now. It’s called “Reimagining Church”. It picks up where “Pagan Christianity” left off and continues the conversation. (“Pagan Christianity” was never meant to be a stand alone book; it’s part one of the conversation.) “Reimagining Church” is endorsed by Leonard Sweet, Shane Claiborne, Alan Hirsch, and many others. You can read a sample chapter at http://www.ReimaginingChurch.org. It’s also available on Amazon.com. Frank is also blogging now at http://frankviola.wordpress.com/ .   Also, have you seen the spoof video for "Pagan"?   Very funny.  Check it out at  http://youtube.com/watch?v=hslswIal9u4 .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sequel to “Pagan Christianity?” is out now. It’s called “Reimagining Church”. It picks up where “Pagan Christianity” left off and continues the conversation. (“Pagan Christianity” was never meant to be a stand alone book; it’s part one of the conversation.) “Reimagining Church” is endorsed by Leonard Sweet, Shane Claiborne, Alan Hirsch, and many others. You can read a sample chapter at <a href="http://www.ReimaginingChurch.org." rel="nofollow">http://www.ReimaginingChurch.org.</a> It’s also available on Amazon.com. Frank is also blogging now at <a href="http://frankviola.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://frankviola.wordpress.com/</a> .   Also, have you seen the spoof video for &#8220;Pagan&#8221;?   Very funny.  Check it out at  <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=hslswIal9u4" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=hslswIal9u4</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: Organic Church Conversation &#171; Making Disciples in an Emerging Church</title>
		<link>http://billeasum.com/20080906/the-conversations-of-our-times-part-four/#comment-971</link>
		<dc:creator>Organic Church Conversation &#171; Making Disciples in an Emerging Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://billeasum.com/20080906/the-conversations-of-our-times-part-four/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Denominations would no longer be needed as people would understand that there is &lt;b&gt;only one church in each city&lt;/b&gt; and our unity would be based on our acknowledgement of the Lordship of Jesus Christ.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This rocked my world.  Thanks, Bill!

Thanks also for clearly articulating reasons for the institutional church.  It was insightful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Denominations would no longer be needed as people would understand that there is <b>only one church in each city</b> and our unity would be based on our acknowledgement of the Lordship of Jesus Christ.</p></blockquote>
<p>This rocked my world.  Thanks, Bill!</p>
<p>Thanks also for clearly articulating reasons for the institutional church.  It was insightful.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill T-B</title>
		<link>http://billeasum.com/20080906/the-conversations-of-our-times-part-four/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill T-B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a house church guy, I have to agree with you Bill. I've seen far too many ... in fact, in my experience a majority ... house churches that are insular and insulated even from each other. There is little, if any, accountability and in North America, there is still a minority of them that appear to be multiplying. I agree that within each house church there is a "everyone loves one another" atmosphere, but in many of these, that dissipates when a guest actually shows up. Yes, there are many, many exceptions ... but as you point out, not every institutional church is apostate either. 

Thanks for your critique ... I'll probably always prefer my worship in a house church, but God seems to have been able to use pretty much every model of "church" we've concocted. I suppose if God had a particular model in mind for the church, our New Testament would look a lot more like the Old Testament with it's rules and rituals and even dimensions of authentic "church" spelled out point-by-point. 


Bill Tenny-Brittian
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a house church guy, I have to agree with you Bill. I&#8217;ve seen far too many &#8230; in fact, in my experience a majority &#8230; house churches that are insular and insulated even from each other. There is little, if any, accountability and in North America, there is still a minority of them that appear to be multiplying. I agree that within each house church there is a &#8220;everyone loves one another&#8221; atmosphere, but in many of these, that dissipates when a guest actually shows up. Yes, there are many, many exceptions &#8230; but as you point out, not every institutional church is apostate either. </p>
<p>Thanks for your critique &#8230; I&#8217;ll probably always prefer my worship in a house church, but God seems to have been able to use pretty much every model of &#8220;church&#8221; we&#8217;ve concocted. I suppose if God had a particular model in mind for the church, our New Testament would look a lot more like the Old Testament with it&#8217;s rules and rituals and even dimensions of authentic &#8220;church&#8221; spelled out point-by-point. </p>
<p>Bill Tenny-Brittian<br />
Senior Consultant<br />
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